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Title: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: Ian T on April 05, 2009, 07:08:12 PM Hi All,
Just sent off my application to dive Blacks on 25 July. Anyone else keen ? GUE 1 and GUE 2 ? Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: JD on April 05, 2009, 07:58:35 PM Can you book myself and Harvs on? ;D
JD PS: I have booked into Tank for May 9-10 with RB as guide (BTW Rob, you are my buddy!) if you want to book on. Shit, just looked at the list, Rob is obviously booked in with his best mate. I could be in trouble for a buddy. Wonder if Dave Hurst will dive with me? Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: rob b on April 05, 2009, 10:22:45 PM Hmmm
As guide i believe that I DECIDE WHO DIVES WITH WHOM? ;D ;D ;D ;D Ian you should come and watch the fun :D :D :D :D Na seriously should be good seeing Grant and Jarrod in the same shed let alone the cave. :o :o :o RB Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: Ian T on April 09, 2009, 10:16:09 AM Guys,
I've been advised that July 25 (Blacks), July 26 (1080) are air dive weekends only, with no trimix and no RBs. Deco gas is fine though. Ian Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: ph on April 09, 2009, 01:33:43 PM . Wonder if Dave Hurst will dive with me?
[/quote] he will just not on the Alert! Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: ph on April 09, 2009, 01:34:22 PM Hi All, Just sent off my application to dive Blacks on 25 July. Anyone else keen ? GUE 1 and GUE 2 ? hahahaha you're the list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! here's a tip book on tank Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: ph on April 09, 2009, 01:35:24 PM Hmmm As guide i believe that I DECIDE WHO DIVES WITH WHOM? ;D ;D ;D ;D Ian you should come and watch the fun :D :D :D :D Na seriously should be good seeing Grant and Jarrod in the same shed let alone the cave. :o :o :o RB JD will pretend to be his best mat even though he can't stand him...... Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: Craig on April 09, 2009, 05:17:25 PM sounds like you're just jealous no-one even pretends with you anymore Harvs ;D
Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: onwardsupwards on April 09, 2009, 06:35:24 PM Guys, I've been advised that July 25 (Blacks), July 26 (1080) are air dive weekends only, with no trimix and no RBs. Deco gas is fine though. Ian Sorry Ian, when we spoke about Barnoolut I forgot to make you aware of the gas restrictions. After an initial look at the sites it seems to me to be a waste of time to not be able to dive mix on them. They are a nice dive to 30-40m for a bit of a look around but the attraction would be the deeper and longer sections, especially Blacks. Site access is fantastic, with Grant and Co having done a great job, but with the effort required to get in and out I would like to be able to maximise the dive opportunitys, for suitably certified divers. I hope that maybe after the site access has been bedded down that some thought will be given to putting in place a workable set of guidlines to dive mix and rbs etc. I am sure this would be on the agenda. Rick Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: rob b on April 09, 2009, 07:05:17 PM Hmm
I could be in the dive if JD could come along. RB Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: Ian T on April 13, 2009, 09:40:19 AM Rob,
JD and I are booked on for July 25/26. Looking forward to it. RN, yes, I've dived 1080 on air a few times now, and it's still a fantastic dive on air. Deep blacks would be great fun, though for my first dives in there, a look around shallow is fine. I have been in touch via email w Grant and he's planning a Trimix weekend coming up. He just wants to make sure people know the dive site before diving mix in it. IT. Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: rob b on April 13, 2009, 10:23:58 AM Hmm
I wonder who the guide is? RB Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: ph on April 13, 2009, 03:37:20 PM sounds like you're just jealous no-one even pretends with you anymore Harvs ;D not at all mate Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: JD on April 13, 2009, 05:30:51 PM No rebreathers may tip me out. It is also Cathy's birthday, which may cause some tension in the camp too.
Can someone ask why no rebreathers allowed? I can dive it on air you know..... JD Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: rob b on April 13, 2009, 06:19:23 PM I believe the guide is not rebreather trained. ;D ;D ;D
Just for you JD i will organize myself to be a guide :o :o :o :o and let you use the YBOD but i must insist that you paint it stealth black. RB Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: JD on April 13, 2009, 08:51:27 PM What happened to the 'Site access co-ordinator'? That was his excuse for not having insurance?
Would this mean they are not a guide, and RB's are allowed? JD Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: rob b on April 13, 2009, 09:13:06 PM ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
who mentioned insurance? The access coordinator does not know what the YBOD's can do and as such he would be foolish to allow you to use it. Australian standards and such. You know he needs to know when they cut the straps from your lif..... ;D ;D ;D ;D RB Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: JD on April 14, 2009, 10:53:15 AM Access co-ordinator VS Dive guide.
Guide, as per Tank Cave needs to be aware of what everybody is diving and how. As per Aussie standards, this means he or she needs to be certified to allow RB use. Access Co-ordinator arranges access for the divers. If the first person listed on Kilsbys is the access co-ordinator, and they are required to be certified, we are in big trouble. It is my understanding that this is how the problem of insurance for the dive 'guides' was overcome. They called them access co-ordinators. JD Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: Craig on April 16, 2009, 09:41:15 AM Suspect you're correct.
Kilsby's access conditions outline the responsibilities of the Dive Coordinator and specifically state that it is the coordinator is to ensure all access related (ie non-diving) requirements are met. It is not their responsibility to direct diving activity as it is a non-guided site. Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: ph on April 17, 2009, 02:33:33 PM ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? who mentioned insurance? The access coordinator does not know what the YBOD's can do and as such he would be foolish to allow you to use it. Australian standards and such. You know he needs to know when they cut the straps from your lif..... ;D ;D ;D ;D RB rob I see the access manager has changed his position on who is allowed to dive their now, what do youknow about this PH Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: rob b on April 17, 2009, 06:13:24 PM Ahh
The gentle hand of persuasion has it benefits. Like the young lady said to the Qantas Pilot Now don't Fuckup the landing. All people deserve a second chance, well almost all ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D RB Title: Re: Blacks Sinkhole - 25 July Post by: ph on April 17, 2009, 08:20:16 PM Ahh The gentle hand of persuasion has it benefits. Like the young lady said to the Qantas Pilot Now don't Fuckup the landing. All people deserve a second chance, well almost all ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D RB glad to have been of help Rob ;-) cheers PH |