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Title: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on October 28, 2008, 07:29:44 PM
ok so what's going on...anyone got any gos?

all is very quiet...what's news in Adelaide


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Ian T on October 29, 2008, 06:10:37 AM
Some of us are going diving. Some of us aren't


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: onwardsupwards on October 29, 2008, 09:05:09 AM
Results of recent CDAA elections. ST returned as Standards Director.

Congrats from all 


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on October 29, 2008, 10:04:57 AM
I saw on the news in Adelaide that some bandit did a runner in a cop car then burnt it....Karl??????


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Craig on October 29, 2008, 11:47:42 AM
I learned this week that the CDAA holds your cert card to ransom until you complete a quality assurance online form thingo.

That wasn't briefed in the Pen course!


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Gooey on October 29, 2008, 02:56:03 PM
Yeah, i agree, WTF!!!!


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on October 29, 2008, 03:51:06 PM
Yeah, i agree, WTF!!!



probably a GUE thing


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: onwardsupwards on October 29, 2008, 04:31:15 PM
I do believe it was briefed. Maybe you guys need to pay a bit more attention instead of slacking off expecting me to drag you through. 8)


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: JD on October 29, 2008, 07:31:24 PM
More seppo bullshit. Why do this for a pen course? The pen course in run by the CDAA, not an individual instructor, and considering this was run by the ND, is it really needed?

Did you meet the requirements? If so, what is the issue? Can filling in a Q&A tell the person reading it if you were good in the water? NO? Well, fuck it off then!

JD


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Craig on October 29, 2008, 08:05:20 PM
I do believe it was briefed. Maybe you guys need to pay a bit more attention instead of slacking off expecting me to drag you through. 8)

I must have been out getting my additional pegs for you & G2 to use at the time... ;D


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: onwardsupwards on October 29, 2008, 08:48:05 PM
More seppo bullshit. Why do this for a pen course? The pen course in run by the CDAA, not an individual instructor, and considering this was run by the ND, is it really needed?

Did you meet the requirements? If so, what is the issue? Can filling in a Q&A tell the person reading it if you were good in the water? NO? Well, fuck it off then!

JD

Jarrod,  By the nature of the questions asked in the QA is seems that the purpose is to ensure that the instructors are providing an adequate course, presented to CDAA standards. As such I don't think its a bad idea to get feedback from the students to make sure standards are kept up.


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: JD on October 29, 2008, 08:53:06 PM
Yes, and I do not disagree for a run of the mill cave course. This course is run BY the association, not an instructor. An instructor cannot just up and run a pen program, it is scheduled and run by them. Not only that, it was run by the national director!
Why Q&A yourself? I run a course, then send out forms to be sent back to me for processing by me! Point is?

If there is a form for other courses, all well and good, but to hold up your card so Warrick can make sure Warrick did a good job? Anyone????? ??? ??? ???


JD


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Craig on October 29, 2008, 09:59:22 PM
Perhaps it's a new thing in light of recent allegations & meant to be a crosscheck of, say, dive times, class session times etc


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on October 30, 2008, 07:52:44 AM
JD I like your reference to GUE standards a "seppo bullsshit"

good work tiger


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: onwardsupwards on October 30, 2008, 10:22:12 AM
Yes, and I do not disagree for a run of the mill cave course. This course is run BY the association, not an instructor. An instructor cannot just up and run a pen program, it is scheduled and run by them. Not only that, it was run by the national director!
Why Q&A yourself? I run a course, then send out forms to be sent back to me for processing by me! Point is?

If there is a form for other courses, all well and good, but to hold up your card so Warrick can make sure Warrick did a good job? Anyone????? ??? ??? ???


JD

There is more than one instructor on the course, four actually. The QA gives the opportunity for students to make comment on the individual performance of instructors. Surely ,in the interests of maintaining a high standard of teaching, this feedback is essential.


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on October 30, 2008, 11:32:39 AM
experienced CDAA instructors are an ageing population, so with the amount of inexperienced instructors on board it is probably a good thing


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: JD on October 30, 2008, 05:25:54 PM
Agree with Paul.

The newest Pen instructor (JB) who was certified by Gary and Linda at the last pen course is the certifying instructor for our now qualified pen instructor AH. In my experience, it is usually the most experienced or senior instructor who signs off on new candidates. Does anyone else see a problem with this? Ian?

JD


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Craig on October 30, 2008, 08:13:01 PM
I think you'll probably find that WM signed AH off. That was certainly the way it presented at the final lunch.


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on November 01, 2008, 11:36:02 AM
so On and Goo...when are you guys coming to Melbourne for your tech 2........


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: onwardsupwards on November 01, 2008, 02:11:04 PM
March 2009. If you can get your fundies and T1 completed before then you may be able to jump on. :D


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on November 01, 2008, 02:29:04 PM
March 2009. If you can get your fundies and T1 completed before then you may be able to jump on. :D

I thought it was full!!!  ;D ;D


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: onwardsupwards on November 01, 2008, 04:05:25 PM
March 2009. If you can get your fundies and T1 completed before then you may be able to jump on. :D

I thought it was full!!!  ;D ;D

Could always get another course up. Maybe PH JD CL? :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on November 01, 2008, 05:43:01 PM
from what I hear PH, JD, CL and a certain KS????????

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Ian T on November 05, 2008, 10:40:55 AM
Yes, and I do not disagree for a run of the mill cave course. This course is run BY the association, not an instructor. An instructor cannot just up and run a pen program, it is scheduled and run by them. Not only that, it was run by the national director!
Why Q&A yourself? I run a course, then send out forms to be sent back to me for processing by me! Point is?

If there is a form for other courses, all well and good, but to hold up your card so Warrick can make sure Warrick did a good job? Anyone????? ??? ??? ???


JD

Jarrod,

WMcD doesn't see the Q&A feedback forms. No instructor does. They go straight to the QA officer, Stan Bugg, and he reviews them and looks for any inconsistencies or feedback. WMcD is not involved in this process, and would only be advised of the feedback if Stan Bugg deems it appropriate.


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Ian T on November 05, 2008, 10:42:50 AM
March 2009. If you can get your fundies and T1 completed before then you may be able to jump on. :D

I thought it was full!!!  ;D ;D

March 2009 Tech 2 is RN, IT and CL. (though not the CL that you are thinking of... )


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on November 05, 2008, 11:09:39 AM
March 2009. If you can get your fundies and T1 completed before then you may be able to jump on. :D

I thought it was full!!!  ;D ;D

March 2009 Tech 2 is RN, IT and CL. (though not the CL that you are thinking of... )

who is CL then...and KS????


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Ian T on November 05, 2008, 04:00:23 PM
CL is another Tech 1 diver based in Melbourne.

How about we let Gooey explain why he isn't on the Tech 2


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on November 05, 2008, 05:46:02 PM
CL is another Tech 1 diver based in Melbourne.

How about we let Gooey explain why he isn't on the Tech 2

do you mean to tell me that the dynamic duo (from SA) is to split!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FMD!


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Craig on November 06, 2008, 10:37:41 AM
yeah but didn't Batman go out on his own...?


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: Ian T on November 06, 2008, 12:40:16 PM
Robin came back from Batman 3... still hope for KS yet...


Title: Re: all is quiet
Post by: PMH on November 06, 2008, 04:08:58 PM
Robin came back from Batman 3... still hope for KS yet...

I hear they came for each other......


apologies in advance.... ;D