CDAA

[Ian T]

Nope.

I do understand both sides of the standards argument that has occured. There are a combination of factors, such as poor instructor training on the new course, ad hoc course standards and materials, and other things when introducing the new Deep Cavern course, that contributed.

The new program allows for a pool session ( which I strongly believe is essential ), and allows a site dive prior to the sinkhole pre-assessment dive. This is the issue in contention.

Divers commencing the program now need to be AOW, hence they already have a 30m depth rating. The pre-requisite dives also verify the DC student can dive to 30m satisfactorily. There is therefore no reason why they cant go to 30m. Hence the sinkhole site dive, which has a max of 30m, prior to the pre-assessment dive back in Gouldens. When the temporary card is issued is not really that much of a point. I generally say that the site is a 40m plus site, if you fail, dont come back and dive it, it's dangerous, etc etc.

JD's point is correct. Although after repeated direction from the SD that this was now how it was to be done, they ignored that.

There were a number of other training points that were questioned also, though i wont go into that.

My concern about the whole process is the lack of observation of the individuals when teaching. It's all off paperwork, and phone calls. Why not see these guys in the water, and provide feed back, rather than an investigation. I believe this would have been a much preferred approach

[rob b]

Well!!

It's all nothing new! Woc has his adgenda's and uses all sorts of things to get people moving off in the direction he requires. Telling GB and LC that i was a crap as Site Dir would be his way of making something happen in the department.

I dont really care. I know i propvided new improvements to many sites, opened new sites, was able to get TRI_MIX into our sites dispite many against it, was able to keep Pines open when the woods and forrest wanted it closed and many more things.

I know that the divers access was far better after i finished in the role as SD than before i started. So i really dont care what anybody said or did not say. The record speaks for itself.

Thanks for the heads up anyway.

regards
RB

[Ian T]

RB,

Completely agree. I believe you did a lot of great job as SD at the time ( Stinging nettle access, Pines Access, Site improvements, Trimix etc). Thanks for your efforts. I would say that Kilsby's now is getting a lot of dives in it under the new lease (not sure if you were involved in that either).

Can I ask now what things / goals your planning on doing within this term ? I do have two cave diving sites that I am involved in 'pushing' though they are no where near Gambier or Nullarbor. More to come on this when we make the connections and push the cave. Secret Squirrel stuff..... 

Ian

[ph]

RB,

Completely agree. I believe you did a lot of great job as SD at the time ( Stinging nettle access, Pines Access, Site improvements, Trimix etc). Thanks for your efforts. I would say that Kilsby's now is getting a lot of dives in it under the new lease (not sure if you were involved in that either).

Can I ask now what things / goals your planning on doing within this term ? I do have two cave diving sites that I am involved in 'pushing' though they are no where near Gambier or Nullarbor. More to come on this when we make the connections and push the cave. Secret Squirrel stuff..... 

Ian

would these be the Buchan caves in Victoria

[rob b]

Hi All

My main objective is to get the landowner laisaion meetings back up and running. I can from there push some things that are way behind, like more tables at some sites, shed at pines etc. The forrest people have worked out not to charge us for diving for the moment so their reluctance to build stuff on their property should be lower so i will try for it.

I will be looking to form a sub committee of divers and assistants who are interested in "" gardening "" in some places , building stuff on sites and making sites better to access.

Just some thoughts.
Regards
RB

[Gooey]

Rob, count me in for assistance on any projects down the Mt..

[rob b]

Thanks for that

Anymore of you guys?

[ph]

Hi All

My main objective is to get the landowner laisaion meetings back up and running. I can from there push some things that are way behind, like more tables at some sites, shed at pines etc. The forrest people have worked out not to charge us for diving for the moment so their reluctance to build stuff on their property should be lower so i will try for it.

I will be looking to form a sub committee of divers and assistants who are interested in "" gardening "" in some places , building stuff on sites and making sites better to access.

Just some thoughts.
Regards
RB

Rob,

for the record I do like you and respect you, and our shakey history was never aimed at you (you were altimately colateral damage) and I have no doubt you have perhaps learnt from past CDAA alliances so I am confident pushing forward in the roll will be posiitive, but in saying that I wouldn't get too settled yet as I don't things certain issues are quite over yet.

As for helping out in the future I could perhaps make time (just when depends on Chester's health, which is on a down hill run) I will be rejoining the CDAA and sticking it up the arse (read as figure of speach) of certain individuals. Please do not ask me to do any sort of plumbing!

[Craig]

Thanks for that

Anymore of you guys?

Happy to do what I can

C

[Ian T]

Thanks Rob for the response on your ideas while SD. Happy to assist and provide some labour as required. Does Research and Mapping come under the SD ?

Hi All

My main objective is to get the landowner laisaion meetings back up and running. I can from there push some things that are way behind, like more tables at some sites, shed at pines etc. The forrest people have worked out not to charge us for diving for the moment so their reluctance to build stuff on their property should be lower so i will try for it.

I will be looking to form a sub committee of divers and assistants who are interested in "" gardening "" in some places , building stuff on sites and making sites better to access.

Just some thoughts.
Regards
RB

[rob b]

Yes
Mapping and research do come under Site and this is to be part of the sub committee to be formed.

I hope to have 3 or 4 splinter groups in that main group that will devide into 1 " digging sites " 2 mapping sites 3 site improvements and site management.

Regards
Rob B

[JD]

Rob, count me in.

If you need any mix diving below 45m, let me know.

JD

[ph]

Rob, count me in.

If you need any mix diving below 45m, let me know.

JD

that would be on open circuit!!!!!!!!

[ph]

Rob, count me in.

If you need any mix diving below 45m, let me know.

JD

now that RB is temporarily back as SD.....the YBOD trimix diving will come to and end in the mount now,yeah?

[rob b]

That depends

If qualified! i believe you can dive to where ever.

RB